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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 04:30:09 PST
From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group <tcp-group@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu
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Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #29
To: tcp-group-digest
TCP-Group Digest Fri, 29 Jan 93 Volume 93 : Issue 29
Today's Topics:
BM 920105 Bug? (2 msgs)
GRINOS 2.0M Bug?
KAM 6.0 eprom
TCP-Group Digest V93 #26
whining and pleading (3 msgs)
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 10:52:44 CST
From: ed@wa9yyf.ampr.org (Edwin P. Curran)
Subject: BM 920105 Bug?
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
Hi All,
I recently downloaded bm.zip from tomcat as I thought I would
upgrade my bm mailer. (I know there are other better? mailers
around, but I like bm and can shell out of nos to use it.)
The version tht I got was 3.3.4 dated 920105.
Everything appeared to work...and it does in fact do all the old
mailer I had did...in fact I didn't see any real changes...until
I noticed that whenever I sent mail, it would first send it to
me, and then send it to the addressee. This seems a waste as it
creates all kinds of duplicate log entries and takes extra time
because of the lzw compression. What am I doing wrong? I have
noticed the extra line in mail from a lot of people (says that
the mail was received with smtp by sender to sender...then next line
is from sender to addressee)
I have tried to read the code and compare with older code...but I am
not a programmer so it doesn't really mean anything to me.
Sorry if this is the wrong palce to ask..and thanks for any comments.
PLEASE send any comments to the group becuase at the present time,
I can not receive mail from the internet.
Ed WA9YYF
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 06:54:52 -0500 (EST)
From: "David J. Trulli" <nn2z@nn2z.UCSD.EDU>
Subject: BM 920105 Bug?
To: "Edwin P. Curran" <ed@wa9yyf.ampr.org>
The version of BM was modified to send all mail to the local system
so that mail would be processed by the rewrite file.
This was requested by people who use BM to send mail to
the BBS world via the NOS Mbox. This is how the bbs also
sends message. They are first sent to the local system where
they are processed via the rewrite rules.
I suppose I could make this feature and option in the BM.RC file.
But we all know this program has doesnt have much life left.
>
> Hi All,
>
> I recently downloaded bm.zip from tomcat as I thought I would
> upgrade my bm mailer. (I know there are other better? mailers
> around, but I like bm and can shell out of nos to use it.)
> The version tht I got was 3.3.4 dated 920105.
>
> Everything appeared to work...and it does in fact do all the old
> mailer I had did...in fact I didn't see any real changes...until
> I noticed that whenever I sent mail, it would first send it to
> me, and then send it to the addressee. This seems a waste as it
> creates all kinds of duplicate log entries and takes extra time
> because of the lzw compression. What am I doing wrong? I have
> noticed the extra line in mail from a lot of people (says that
> the mail was received with smtp by sender to sender...then next line
> is from sender to addressee)
>
> I have tried to read the code and compare with older code...but I am
> not a programmer so it doesn't really mean anything to me.
>
> Sorry if this is the wrong palce to ask..and thanks for any comments.
>
> PLEASE send any comments to the group becuase at the present time,
> I can not receive mail from the internet.
>
> Ed WA9YYF
>
--
Dave Trulli internet: nn2z@nn2z.ampr.org, david.trulli@att.com
packet: nn2z@nn2z.nj.usa.na
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 11:25:42 CST
From: ed@wa9yyf.ampr.org (Edwin P. Curran)
Subject: GRINOS 2.0M Bug?
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
One of the local people here found an interesting thing in GRINOS 2.0M.
Yes I am still running it because it is stable and it does what I want
it to do and I don't need to run a full blown bbs. I know there are
other versions of nos but I like this one.
Anyway....if you have netrom enabled ( I know...I could turn it off...
but it does serve some purpose at this time) and someone has a session
open with you, ( We have tried ftp and telnet) and the person who
has the session open does a remote kick to get the session going again,
the netrom will beacon. We have tried this with several different stations
and it always happens.
Has anybody else seen this and are there any fixes for it. I haven't
tried it with other flavors of nos...but it could possibly happen there
also.
PLEASE send any comments to the group....as at this time I can not
get any mail from the Internet. Thanks.
Ed WA9YYF
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:18:38 PST
From: "Jeffrey D. Angus" <jangus@skyld.tele.com>
Subject: KAM 6.0 eprom
To: "Stuart Tener" <tener@cs.widener.edu>
On Thu, 28 Jan 93 14:14:53 EST, "Stuart Tener" <tener@cs.widener.edu> wrote:
> > In article <1k6ausINNqah@lucy.cs.widener.edu> you write:
> >
> > >
> > > Recently I was ftping from nic.funet.fi, and in one of the directorys on
> > > there system was a file called KAM60.BIN in an eprom directory. Being as
> > > it is exactly the size of a 27512, and the kam uses a 27512 I do presume
> > > that it is an eprom for the kam. But what does it do? Who wrote it?
> > > Where is the documentation? who has the source? why would I use it?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > stuart
> > > tener@cs.widener.edu
> > > (215)-338-6005
> > >
> >
> > Someone with a healthy disrespect for copyright has placed the image there.
> > Of course, it won't work unless you are either upgrading from (already
> > installed) version 5.0 or if you change the Xicor 2404 to a 24C16. There is
> > a jumper to change as well, but that was covered in version 3 and later.
>
> ^ Just out of curiosity (sp?) if you never upgraded to 3.0 what exactly
^^^^^^^^^ this is the correct spelling
> must be done to the KAM? What is the Xicor 2404? Is this a RAM chip? or
> a prom? or what? and what jumpers must be changed or added? I am running
> V2.84! I purchased an upgrade (3.0) for $3.00 from someone who went to
> (5.0) or (6.0) or whatever. All I know is he upgraded, and sold the old
> chip at a local hamfest. It didn't work. Maybe cause I didn't do these
> mods. please...if you can tell me the exact mods to make that would be
> really cool. thank you in advance.
>
> stuart b. tener
> tener@cs.widener.edu
> (215)-338-6005
>
> (215)-338-6005
>
> p.s. -- Do you know how one can contact Kantronics via Compuserve or
> any other electronic service?
If you're just doing the 3.0 upgrade, ignore the part about changing the
Xicor 2404 EEPROM. But do check the "jumper" mentioned below.
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:46:57 UTC
From: mvangel@mvangel.nusc.navy.mil
Subject: TCP-Group Digest V93 #26
To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu
Looking for Windows NT Beta Testers for sharing test information.
I have Windows NT coming in this week and would like to compare notes
with another Windows NT Beta Tester.
*--$-| Dad H P || Amateur- KA1THM@KA1THM |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 11:51:40 -0800
From: chuckb@babbage.ecs.csus.edu (Chuck Bland)
Subject: whining and pleading
To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
I confess, I read it a couple of weeks ago here........
What was finally decided about which version of RCS was
the best one for PC/ka9q use ?
In asbestos suit (with filter mask)
Chuck
chuckb@babbage.ecs.csus.edu
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 20:11:14 HST
From: Antonio Querubin <tony@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu>
Subject: whining and pleading
To: chuckb@babbage.ecs.csus.edu (Chuck Bland)
>
> I confess, I read it a couple of weeks ago here........
>
> What was finally decided about which version of RCS was
> the best one for PC/ka9q use ?
RCS 5.5 supposedly works without much fuss. I've only been able to
locate 5.6.4 on the simtel20 mirror sites. Maybe someone can repost
the location of RCS 5.5 (for DOS). 5.6.4 opens the RCS files
in binary mode which causes some problems but the workarounds are easy
(after you've figured them out :-) ).
Tony
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 12:54:28 PST
From: "Jerzy Tarasiuk" <JT@zfja-gate.fuw.edu.pl>
Subject: whining and pleading
To: Antonio Querubin <tony@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu>
To: chuckb@babbage.ecs.csus.edu (Chuck Bland)
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 20:11:14 HST
> From: Antonio Querubin <tony@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu>
> In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 28 Jan 93 11:51:40 -0800
> Message-Id: <CMM.0.90.2.728287874.tony@mpg>
>
> > What was finally decided about which version of RCS was
>
> RCS 5.5 supposedly works without much fuss. I've only been able to
> locate 5.6.4 on the simtel20 mirror sites. Maybe someone can repost
> the location of RCS 5.5 (for DOS). 5.6.4 opens the RCS files
I have RCS 5.5 for DOS here: zfja-gate(148.81.6.100):utils/rcs55.zip
(unfortunately, via 72kBaud link - slow transmission - if many people
in US need it one of them should take it and make available for others)
73's, JT
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
Note: if you have a version number below 2.8, perform the following change.
With the front of the unit facing you, locate the printed circuit pads marked
X to the left of the largest IC. (the processor). You'll see 3 pads (holes)
with a "1" and "2" printed between them. WIth an Exacto(tm) blade, cut the
trace jumper marked "1" and install a jumper wire between pads at "2". Be
careful to use a low-heat iron. It is recommended that you place the jumper
on the back of the board.
Bad ASCII version of the drawing from the upgrade sheet:
_____________________________
T |_____| | 1|
C53 | c
C52 |_____________________________|
| | | Z-80 uProcessor
2 R R R
1 9 9 9
X 6 5 4
| | |
Technical notes from me:
The EPROM in the the KAM is a 27C512 64K by 8 memory chip. Use a -20
(i.e., 200 nS) or faster version. The Original EEPROM, Xicor 2404 is
an 8K by 1 serial electrically alterable non-volatile memory chip.
The replacement is a 4K version. Some people (myself included) had
added a second 2404 originally to handle a large number of PERMed
changes to the default TNC settings.
On communicating to Kantronics, look in your manual and dial up their
BBS in Lawrance Kansas. The person to leave mail for is Karl Medcalf.
There are no e-mail connections to Kantronics, nor do they have any
planned in the future.
PS, Karl gets rather hostile if you mention copying or changing the
EPROM images. I'm not sure exactly what their attitude is on reselling
"old" versions of their firmware. A friend of mine wrote a translating
program to de-scramble the image on the EPROM for bugfixes to version 3.0
when it first came out. (The MBX-ID was [KAM-3.0-H] and should have been
[KAM-3.0-H$] for it to work. With the "$", you had to include the "correct"
version of the MBX-ID in the PTEXT for the reverse forwarding to work.
73 es GA from Jeff
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US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749-4425 1 (310) 324-6080
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